Thought on this "hip hop is dead" bullshyt....

[billy yayo]

ok i rarly start topics but seeing that this section just started, i thought, id bring in a topic that many hip hopers discuss not only in bx and itsbx but all over the net and wherever ppl get togther to discuss hip hop...these were m y views on why hip hop was dying or is in the state it is in now...read on and post away

the radio killed hip hop....
but wait, we cant even say hip hop is dead...
because to the south, hip hop is moving units..I'm sorry but i don't call lil john and d4l and all that hip hop, but an extension of what hip hop has become.. i can't understand sh*t then dudes be spitting.. nowadays every1 wanna rap.. kool... rap, but that don't make u hip hop...like krs 1 said, "rap u speak, hip hop u live"... i don't live like the south, no grills in my teeth... to me every1 is saying hip hop is dead because there isn't any1 being played that is actually speaking to US... connecting us to their struggle.... imagine if the radio played more LB, more Common, More Roots, hip hop ain't dead, its just confused... when did we allow the radio to dictate to us what is real hip hop?, hip hop died once YO MTV raps left .. sh*t died when BET played nothing but crunk..radio don't play hip hop...No Wu Tangs, no Royce da 5'9's no Talib's... no On be lo's, no Slum... i mean c'mon, its our fault in the end if we need to blame an actually figure.. we call in the radio stations and request the same shyt that we diss... i think RnB is killing the airwaves cause ultimately its a Universal Sound...
I don't blame downloading music as the reason hip hop is dead, because there was always bootleggin, if anything the internet has allowed us to connect to our favorite artist... made them more accessible to the public, but the radio has played a major role in the downfall of good music.. playing Ballinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 4 times a day sucks ass... sorry jim jones...seeing what Jay z did to def jam hurts, because he fu*ked up that label...i love nas but to nas his vision of hip hop being dead is a reflection of NY rap... and ny rap died because (1)... we (NYC) got to cocky in making good music and 2 hardly any ny rappers get along, all They want is that "NY thrown", that supposedly BIGGIE occupied...ooooooooooo well..
be on the lOOk out for
SkyZoo And
Saigon... Now that PROMISING

then I wrote this after thinking..

ppl i have come to realize hip hop will not change back to what it use to be
it is going through different transitions that is allowing for a new sound, but its all hip hop...we never gonna get another nas, primo, nuffin like that, what we will have are ppl that grew up in the 90's listening to folks that we branded as real hip hoppers and will attempt to mimick that sound... let the south (crunk) live and all that strippers rap music live, cause its not going nowhere, and folks creaming for that old school hip hop will find a few other there but they will be copies, not og's...
do your part, but stop saying hip hop is dead...i have

[SamX]

I'll take someone's "hip hop is dead" argument seriously when they stop characterizing the south as D4L/crunk/etc.


And if you don't think filesharing/bootlegging is hurting hip-hop (and music in general) you're kidding yourself.

[*MOB*STAR*]

how is it dead the only reason thats said is because ny rappers isn't do good

[S0uthernScience]

HIP HOP IS DEAD

Im from the S0uth and i agree wit that fu*kin statement.
There are alot TRU hiphop artist in the south

Weezy
Chamillionaire
Luda
OutKast
Z-RO:blunt:
Bun B
and tons of underground artist...the list goes on

But that dance music sh*t aint HipHop..and that's whats sellin right n0w

So fu*k the Radio,fu*k dancin in the club,And fu*k the fu*kin diaz brothers...fu*k'em All:blunt: :blunt: :blunt:

[d3323]

yo :iagree: hip hop is dead :smh: :banghead:

2 setping in the culb cmon ever since lil john took the club scneen every one trys 2 copy n thats where it came from

every month theres only one or 2 good songs ever since maby 2002 bc every one had there own flow not copying other niggas :sh*thappe

peace ~the one n only:blunt:

[Thursday]

there are two parts of urban music now.
rap AND hip hop.

the rap part would include luda, jay z, dre, weezy, chamillionaire, etc. usually just artists putting out music to express themselves

hip hop is more of the 'fun' part of urban music. basically the same as pop music (just tryin to make money and putting out tracks the majority of the population wants)

[Sub Crazy]

HIP HOP IS DEAD

Im from the S0uth and i agree wit that fu*kin statement.
There are alot TRU hiphop artist in the south

Weezy
Chamillionaire
Luda
OutKast
Z-RO:blunt:
Bun B
and tons of underground artist...the list goes on

But that dance music sh*t aint HipHop..and that's whats sellin right n0w

So fu*k the Radio,fu*k dancin in the club,And fu*k the fu*kin diaz brothers...fu*k'em All:blunt: :blunt: :blunt:

I agree on with this guy, except on Weezy and Chamillionaire.

[SpEcIaL Ed]

todays mainstream rappers are what killed hip-hop. since they only rappin about sh*t that has no point (9 times out of 10). they are just makin albums for you to waste their money on. and the sad part is all you younger kids have no clue of what hip-hop is or was. so any of you in your teens and most in their early twenties shouldnt even speak on this topic cause you have no clue what your talkin bout.

[Jerzyfam]

todays mainstream rappers are what killed hip-hop. since they only rappin about sh*t that has no point (9 times out of 10). they are just makin albums for you to waste their money on. and the sad part is all you younger kids have no clue of what hip-hop is or was. so any of you in your teens and most in their early twenties shouldnt even speak on this topic cause you have no clue what your talkin bout.



yes sir just like the young man above saying hiphop and rap are two different classes of music....

again, for like 100x....HIP HOP is a culture, RAP is the music from the culture

[e-man]

How can hip-hop be dead.....when artists like the roots, common, talib etc still makin good music. The only reason Nas said "hip-hop is dead" was to start controversy which makes ppl think about the state hip-hop is in, which is exactly what were doing here...would this thread have been started if he didnt say that??.

I agree with alot of the things the thread starter said like MTV, BET, the radio fukin things up......hip-hop has become commercial to a point where artists will put out whatever sells (all the sh*t on the radio). Its as simple as that-- hip-hop is not dead. Some artists stay true but the majority will do whatever it takes to make a million. As the wu said-C.R.E.A.M.

[Next_Movement]

How can hip-hop be dead.....when artists like the roots, common, talib etc still makin good music. The only reason Nas said "hip-hop is dead" was to start controversy which makes ppl think about the state hip-hop is in, which is exactly what were doing here...would this thread have been started if he didnt say that??.

I agree with alot of the things the thread starter said like MTV, BET, the radio fukin things up......hip-hop has become commercial to a point where artists will put out whatever sells (all the sh*t on the radio). Its as simple as that-- hip-hop is not dead. Some artists stay true but the majority will do whatever it takes to make a million. As the wu said-C.R.E.A.M.
Absolutely true..

[Gambin0]

Hip Hop aint dead... it just changed.... Can yall recognize change or are yall blinded by what yall percieve as ur favorite. Remember back when rap WAS KRS 1, Rakim, and NWA? That was wat was in for that time.. Then it changed to DMX, Jay-Z, and Nas. Now its T.I., Ludacris, Game, 50 Cent. Hip hop is no different from anything is the world. Everything changes and the kinda change that hiphop has taken has us older heads not feelin it. But think, When hip hop changed from KRS One to Jay-Z dont u think that the generation before us was unhappy? Now the new generation has come and yall dont like it, but ur kids do. So let them have their gen. If you dont like it, get keep listenin to the old sh*t, or get a new genre cuz pop aint dead...lol... Nobody complains about that sh*t.

P.S. Im not a pop fan, jst keepin it real.

[Sakriphyse88]

Hip Hop BEEN dead..

[I ito I]

Hip Hop ain't dead, it's just different. And it aint gonna go back to how it was simply because this is what people in general like.. and rappers are liking the money. Sad shyt is how you got rappers changing their whole style and flow, just to fit in..

Stuff that were hot back in the day, wouldn't be hot nowadays. Who's to blame? pretty much everyone.

[Gambin0]

Hip hop aint dead... Nas is....LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO O

[teeeeeeeemunney]

I'll take someone's "hip hop is dead" argument seriously when they stop characterizing the south as D4L/crunk/etc.


And if you don't think filesharing/bootlegging is hurting hip-hop (and music in general) you're kidding yourself.


To back up that claim, I read an article recently on CNN that said that rap album sales between 2005 and '06 declined 25 percent. Surprised? At first I was then I thought about it:

Thanks to file-sharing, the consumers of hip-hop (who are mostly white, mind you) just download the one song they know and that's that. Most anyone with musical taste would probably realize (maybe even without listening to the cd) that the rest of DFB, D4L, etc's albums are garbage anyway, so why waste 12 bucks on a 90% crappy album when you can download "Laffy Taffy" or "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" for free?

[billy yayo]

i had to revisit this thread since i am bored at work
lol

[Brickcityplaya]

I agree on with this guy, except on Weezy and Chamillionaire.

:applause:

[Brickcityplaya]

Honestly, I blame the consumer....limited people are buying albums anymore and the only albums being bought are those mainstream pop rap and dance songs....the end product...record companies release what makes money...if everyone said fu*k "2 step" and all those garbage ass songs, then they would not keep coming out...Hip Hop is not Dead....Hip Hop has just fused with capitalism....Money has corrupted hip hop in my opinion...back in the day cats were not getting rich off this industry, there was a sincere passion for making good music, now C.R.E.A.M.....that's why underground rappers are the closest thing to real hip hop...No need to blast me if you don't agree this is just my take on the situation...PEACE

[Tha Story]

I hate the people who are saying Hip Hop is dead then are not doing anything about it. People are moaning and bi*ching about "no-ones rapping about anything good now" "no-one is trying to save Hip-Hop".

I just feel like, DAMN, am I living in the same world as some of these people?
There were some dope albums in 2006 - mainstream and underground.

2007 has been an awesome year for Hip-Hop.

People are only looking at what is placed in front of them, you need to search for things, there are plenty of dope albums this year and there will be plenty more. 2007 is great.

fu*k the Hip Hop Is Dead movement.