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carl johnson
04-10-2007, 09:16 PM
okay...i respect people who believe in the Christian belief of Jesus being the Son of God...and i know after im done writing here people are just going to say "JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD" ...but...im going to say this...im a realist...and an anti-theist..which means im against any form of religion...but i do believe in a higher being...ONE higher being...God....Allah....it is nameless...i dont know...It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is, figure out your sh*t and get back to me....anyway...my point was...i believe Jesus existed...its in the record books of Rome and sh*t...but he is not the Son of God, he is the son of Joseph...his reason for crucifixtion was for blasphemy....which is exactly what he was doing...and the Jews were correct in theory...from what i've stated, there is no way Jesus could be the son of GOD....i believe that Islam was closest with their view of Jesus...that he was indeed a prophet...but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God...i think my theory is pretty damn brilliant actually....but anyway thats just my rant on Christianty....by the way i was raised a Catholic, and i have to say the Catholic church is the most corrupt sh*t ive ever seen...they rake in the most cash out of any franchise in the world...but thats all i have to say....peace.

XwakkawakkaX
04-10-2007, 10:27 PM
okay...i respect people who believe in the Christian belief of Jesus being the Son of God...and i know after im done writing here people are just going to say "JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD" ...but...im going to say this...im a realist...and an anti-theist..which means im against any form of religion...but i do believe in a higher being...ONE higher being...God....Allah....it is nameless...i dont know...It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is, figure out your sh*t and get back to me....anyway...my point was...i believe Jesus existed...its in the record books of Rome and sh*t...but he is not the Son of God, he is the son of Joseph...his reason for crucifixtion was for blasphemy....which is exactly what he was doing...and the Jews were correct in theory...from what i've stated, there is no way Jesus could be the son of GOD....i believe that Islam was closest with their view of Jesus...that he was indeed a prophet...but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God...i think my theory is pretty damn brilliant actually....but anyway thats just my rant on Christianty....by the way i was raised a Catholic, and i have to say the Catholic church is the most corrupt sh*t ive ever seen...they rake in the most cash out of any franchise in the world...but thats all i have to say....peace.


Do you have proof the catholic church is "the most corrupt sh*t" youve ever seen?


The fact that you believe there is a higher power makes you a hipocrit.

You cant say "I dont believe in God or Allah or any other form of religion" and then say "but i do believe in a higher power".....doesnt work that way

ivan1087
04-10-2007, 11:50 PM
Do you have proof the catholic church is "the most corrupt sh*t" youve ever seen?
Doesn't really need proof for that....it kinda goes without saying......*cough* disinvolvement during the Holocaust *cough* various molestation charges *cough* list goes on.............


The fact that you believe there is a higher power makes you a hipocrit.

Not at all. He clearly doesn't believe in a religion, thus, as he stated, he's an anti-theist. One can believe there is a higher power without believing in god(s). Perhaps he believes in a universal energy, for lack of a better term...

prophetz
04-11-2007, 12:44 AM
god doesn't exist, those who think he does, are just scared of dying.

cuz937100
04-11-2007, 12:56 AM
You people kill me...

Swishadude
04-11-2007, 01:25 AM
Jesus is the man

DUNDUN
04-11-2007, 09:45 AM
I h8 2 say it but wut if Jesus just was skitso or bi polor any 1 with clams of his nowadays r shipped 2 da loony bin & call'd "crazy" or r these so call'd "crazy" people kin folk of Jesus & do they have the same feelings/Powers. Dont know bout cha'll but i think theirs 1 god dat made all this shyt ......

XwakkawakkaX
04-11-2007, 10:01 AM
Doesn't really need proof for that....it kinda goes without saying......*cough* disinvolvement during the Holocaust *cough* various molestation charges *cough* list goes on.............




Not at all. He clearly doesn't believe in a religion, thus, as he stated, he's an anti-theist. One can believe there is a higher power without believing in god(s). Perhaps he believes in a universal energy, for lack of a better term...

He believes in a higher power...thats fu*kING RELIGION

MATIX
04-11-2007, 01:20 PM
well dont come crying back to jesus when ur ass goes to hell

carl johnson
04-11-2007, 01:29 PM
Do you have proof the catholic church is "the most corrupt sh*t" youve ever seen?


The fact that you believe there is a higher power makes you a hipocrit.

You cant say "I dont believe in God or Allah or any other form of religion" and then say "but i do believe in a higher power".....doesnt work that way
are you a fu*king moron? ...religion is man made...i shhouldnt even be replying to your stupid ass

demmy_doza
04-11-2007, 02:08 PM
are you a fu*king moron? ...religion is man made...i shhouldnt even be replying to your stupid ass

lol... man, I stopped trying to talk to people on this a long time ago. I dont understand how any person that is a "thinking person" and uses their mind can actually believe in Fairy Tales. I actually prefered Grimm's version over the King James version

Swishadude
04-11-2007, 02:36 PM
its funny to me that atheists are so bitter that their main goal is to put down people that have faith. its pretty disgusting actually.

XwakkawakkaX
04-11-2007, 02:38 PM
are you a fu*king moron? ...religion is man made...i shhouldnt even be replying to your stupid ass

how can u say your athiest and then say you believe in a higher power...your the fu*king moron:lol:

deileoni
04-11-2007, 03:20 PM
okay...i respect people who believe in the Christian belief of Jesus being the Son of God...and i know after im done writing here people are just going to say "JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD" ...but...im going to say this...im a realist...and an anti-theist..which means im against any form of religion...but i do believe in a higher being...ONE higher being...God....Allah....it is nameless...i dont know...It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is, figure out your sh*t and get back to me....anyway...my point was...i believe Jesus existed...its in the record books of Rome and sh*t...but he is not the Son of God, he is the son of Joseph...his reason for crucifixtion was for blasphemy....which is exactly what he was doing...and the Jews were correct in theory...from what i've stated, there is no way Jesus could be the son of GOD....i believe that Islam was closest with their view of Jesus...that he was indeed a prophet...but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God...i think my theory is pretty damn brilliant actually....but anyway thats just my rant on Christianty....by the way i was raised a Catholic, and i have to say the Catholic church is the most corrupt sh*t ive ever seen...they rake in the most cash out of any franchise in the world...but thats all i have to say....peace.
how are you "against any religion" yet u believe in "a god who ahs control over everything".. get your facts straight ya cocksuckin rat fu*k

rickylm
04-11-2007, 04:39 PM
if you were in my presence i woulda slap some sense into you

marshall law
04-11-2007, 09:50 PM
okay...i respect people who believe in the Christian belief of Jesus being the Son of God...and i know after im done writing here people are just going to say "JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD" ...but...im going to say this...im a realist...and an anti-theist..which means im against any form of religion...but i do believe in a higher being...ONE higher being...God....Allah....it is nameless...i dont know...It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is, figure out your sh*t and get back to me....anyway...my point was...i believe Jesus existed...its in the record books of Rome and sh*t...but he is not the Son of God, he is the son of Joseph...his reason for crucifixtion was for blasphemy....which is exactly what he was doing...and the Jews were correct in theory...from what i've stated, there is no way Jesus could be the son of GOD....i believe that Islam was closest with their view of Jesus...that he was indeed a prophet...but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God...i think my theory is pretty damn brilliant actually....but anyway thats just my rant on Christianty....by the way i was raised a Catholic, and i have to say the Catholic church is the most corrupt sh*t ive ever seen...they rake in the most cash out of any franchise in the world...but thats all i have to say....peace.

I understand what you mean, but you have to realize that there are some things that we as human beings can't even fathom b/c we're limited. You said "It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is" when you were talking about God, right? But key in on "has control over everything." That's the point, man. God can do whatever God wants to do and His ways are not our ways. If God wanted to split himself into another being, are you saying that would be impossible for God? If you think that's impossible for him then wouldn't that go against your definition of God?

Just b/c it's hard for you to imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible. I always give this as an example: We all know that outer space is infinite, right? But if you try to picture outer space as infinite in your mind, you automatically make it finite b/c you feel the need to "see" it--simply put, as human beings we are limited in what we can do. So to say "God is either this or that" is wrong b/c you're defining God only through your limited human point of view, but God operates on a whole different level than we as humans ever could imagine.

Chew on that for a moment, and reply if you feel like building more on Jesus (who definitely never blasphemed and truly is God).

carl johnson
04-11-2007, 10:38 PM
god doesn't exist, those who think he does, are just scared of dying.
logically, i couldn't agree with you more. however, there are some days when i just feel a 'presence' that i'm sure is not just anything...

carl johnson
04-11-2007, 10:47 PM
I understand what you mean, but you have to realize that there are some things that we as human beings can't even fathom b/c we're limited. You said "It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is" when you were talking about God, right? But key in on "has control over everything." That's the point, man. God can do whatever God wants to do and His ways are not our ways. If God wanted to split himself into another being, are you saying that would be impossible for God? If you think that's impossible for him then wouldn't that go against your definition of God?

Just b/c it's hard for you to imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible. I always give this as an example: We all know that outer space is infinite, right? But if you try to picture outer space as infinite in your mind, you automatically make it finite b/c you feel the need to "see" it--simply put, as human beings we are limited in what we can do. So to say "God is either this or that" is wrong b/c you're defining God only through your limited human point of view, but God operates on a whole different level than we as humans ever could imagine.

Chew on that for a moment, and reply if you feel like building more on Jesus (who definitely never blasphemed and truly is God).
i understand perfectly what you mean..i mean its almost impossible to know what is truly in store for us and what is the real "truth" if there is any..but also im going to spin what you said back around..you say us human beings cannot truly fathom some things out there because we are so limited....such as death? ...such as whats the point of being on this earth? ..such as why is my life so sh*t, what did i do to deserve this? ....its the reason WHY religion was created...because we truly do not understand anything...its why i dont believe in religion because it was created solely based on someones beliefs and to try and understand what is the meaning of everything...you get what im saying? ...and not only in that sense, but religion just is not for faith and believing in whatever...its about control...nothing controls human beings from being fu*king beasts like religion does....like Marx said i think, religion is the "opium of the people" ....its a tool used for control..........and when you say God can do anything...sure He can....what im saying is there is a higher being..what i believe is that IT isnt there just for us but for the entire universe....hmmm...this is why i dont like arguing about this with religious people because they always bring in the unknown factor into it and spin it their way...and then theres no way i can come back to it...well anyway...i respect what your saying...peace

carl johnson
04-11-2007, 10:49 PM
how can u say your athiest and then say you believe in a higher power...your the fu*king moron:lol:
fool if you actually read what i wrote, i said im a goddamn ANTI-THEIST...you ignorant fu*k...dont post in my threads again until you learn how to read.

carl johnson
04-11-2007, 10:50 PM
how are you "against any religion" yet u believe in "a god who ahs control over everything".. get your facts straight ya cocksuckin rat fu*k
what does a "God who has control over everything" have to do with a man made bunch of rules and regulations for people? ....read my post up there and get back to me correct next time.

chaos212
04-12-2007, 12:07 AM
what does a "God who has control over everything" have to do with a man made bunch of rules and regulations for people? ....read my post up there and get back to me correct next time.

dude, I get what you mean, but you can spit truth down people's throat til your blue in the face, no matter how right you are and how wrong they can be, they'll just turn around and say "you mad" and you've wasted oxygen homie....there aint enough trees to argue with stupid people. :blunt:


p.s I just made you powerful with that prop. :D

TX_Country_Boi
04-12-2007, 12:40 AM
dude, I get what you mean, but you can spit truth down people's throat til your blue in the face, no matter how right you are and how wrong they can be, they'll just turn around and say "you mad" and you've wasted oxygen homie....there aint enough trees to argue with stupid people. :blunt:


p.s I just made you powerful with that prop. :D
Thing is.... how does anyone know what the truth is?

Jerzyfam
04-12-2007, 10:30 AM
well dont come crying back to jesus when ur ass goes to hell


exactly....everyone talkin real crazy in this thread...how about we stick to music discussions....who's the next person we are going to put up against lil wayne and see who is better?

VeezNutz420
04-12-2007, 10:34 AM
but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God...

Hey Homie, I don't mean any disrespect, but Jesus didn't make up the story that he was the son of God. He was told he was the son of God.

chaos212
04-12-2007, 11:59 AM
Thing is.... how does anyone know what the truth is?

your right...truth wasn't the word I should have used. arguments for a more logical explanation* is what I was looking for.

HeGotBeatz
04-12-2007, 01:51 PM
u say Jesus let the word of God get to his head, but wasnt he the one that brought us the word of God? what was it that he let get to his head, and who wrote that?

XwakkawakkaX
04-12-2007, 03:23 PM
fool if you actually read what i wrote, i said im a goddamn ANTI-THEIST...you ignorant fu*k...dont post in my threads again until you learn how to read.

I know how to read..and i respect your beliefs..thats why im giving u props for this post

little_ionic
04-12-2007, 03:37 PM
Preface before replying...how deep do you want to go, and how much do you really want to know about Christianity? Many ask questions without doing research but off the traditions of their environment. Granted I'm a Christian, but I have also been to seminary, studied denominationalism (divisions in Christianity) and Philosophy...bottom line if Jesus is God and there is only one way then you will have a contextually sound approach before making a definite argument, not one based on opinion or hear-say. Jesus Himself did proclaim to be the way, truth and light that no man can come to the Father but through Him. If you want the answers to the doctrine if the Trinity, Salvation, or any other Christian ideology or theology, that can be researched and historically tested. But remember if you misinterpret a source you defeat yourself and you own understanding. We can travel this road publicly or privately. Not looking for props nor am I trying to persuade anyone.


ask and you shall receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened.

little_ionic
04-12-2007, 03:42 PM
by the way...If Christ is a true prophet then He is the God as proclaimed; if He is not God, then He is a false prophet and not worthy of any following. It's black and white.

theboyboy
04-13-2007, 07:42 AM
Jesus (Yeshua peace be upon him) never said he was the son of God, he said he was the son of man.
Jesus however, is the son of God, in the way yourself or myself are the sons of God. Now, Jesus in his lifetime prayed to God, never had people worship him and taught belief in 1 God, do you really think he advised you to worship him as your savior? This is the falsification of later church leaders, Apostles gone astray and FALSE Apostles...Mix in the fact that the earliest manuscripts of the Gospel of Jesus are no longer in tact and there is your answer.

Oh also, Jesus was a Shepard as well as a Carpenter, all of the Prophets were Shepards as well (Abraham, Moses, Muhammed, etc.

There are churches in North Africa Called the Unitarian Churches who dont believe in the concocted idea of there somehow being 1 God and 3 at the same time (The Trinity)...this idea is based off of paganism. Most of these churches and peoples converted to Islam over the years. Dave Chapelle's family was a part of this church and I believe he converted to Islam as well.

Assalam Aleykum

MΛζ†Д VεNфM™
04-13-2007, 03:39 PM
If God wanted to split himself into another being, are you saying that would be impossible for God? If you think that's impossible for him then wouldn't that go against your definition of God?

"Say: He (Allah) is one * Allah, the Ever-Enduring * He bore not, nor was He born * And neither was, to Him, a match (any) one" - Al-Ikhlas (Quran)

^^ nuff said

Lake
04-13-2007, 04:44 PM
Apostle Paul wrote that Jesus had a twin, Judah and in fact the leader of early Christians was James....and if u know your history u would know the Romans twisted the original Bible into their own little tool of control over their people.

and if u REALLY know ur history u would know that the Bible is full of stories and characters ripped straight from ancient Babylonian and Sumerian myths and stories.

edit: Worshipping God, Jesus, and/or the Holy Trinity is by definition polytheism

XwakkawakkaX
04-13-2007, 11:07 PM
Apostle Paul wrote that Jesus had a twin, Judah and in fact the leader of early Christians was James....and if u know your history u would know the Romans twisted the original Bible into their own little tool of control over their people.

and if u REALLY know ur history u would know that the Bible is full of stories and characters ripped straight from ancient Babylonian and Sumerian myths and stories.

edit: Worshipping God, Jesus, and/or the Holy Trinity is by definition polytheism

Jesus was gods prophet..not another God

and the holy trinity includes The Father(God),The Son(Jesus),And the Holy Spirit(and enitity employed by God)

carl johnson
04-15-2007, 12:21 AM
not really....like he said^ its considered one entity...Hinduism is considered polytheism...

Lake
04-15-2007, 06:21 AM
^^no it's considered a Trinity...group of three.

and since all 3 entities that make up the Holy Trinity are worshiped separately it is a polytheistic way of worship.

Crzyazninvazn
04-15-2007, 11:24 AM
I'm not going to bother reading all of this because the first post was illiterate to begin with.

To believe in a higher entity, yet not in any form of religion is called being agnostic. Thanks for the ignorance.

Chainsaw Rob
04-15-2007, 03:05 PM
Jesus built my hotrod!!

All jokes aside it doesn't/shouldn't matter which religion you believe in as long as u believe in a higher power/being/thing/soapbox, etc.... Paul Mooney said it best, the 10 commandments were a bi*ch so man invented all sorts of religions.

P.S. Scientology has got to be the worst.

chainz97
04-15-2007, 05:35 PM
First off for you to say that the Catholic Church “is the most corrupt sh*t you have ever seen” is plain ignorant, more corrupt are governments and corporations around the world (Find out some stuff about the FDA). Your claim that “they rake in the most cash out of any franchise in the world” shows your level in research, Still worth billions yes but nowhere close to the net worth of the Microsoft corporation (don’t even try to get back at me by saying “I didn’t call them a corporation I called them a franchise”). “I mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is, figure out your sh*t and get back to me”. I bet you felt pretty intelligent when you wrote this…Yes Christians say that there is one God correct, but did you happen to over look that we believe that God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are all one. (But that doesn’t make any sense) What? Are you going to tell me that God cannot be the representation of 3? Who are you to say that there is no in between? Jesus was born of the Virgin Marry she was mortal he has blood that is human and deity. “i believe Jesus existed...its in the record books of Rome and sh*t...but he is not the Son of God, he is the son of Joseph...his reason for crucifixtion was for blasphemy....which is exactly what he was doing...and the Jews were correct in theory...from what i've stated, there is no way Jesus could be the son of GOD”. Let me bring it down to your level of intelligence…what the fu*k are you saying? You are throwing outrageous remarks that are just coming from…well your ass. You are bringing nothing to this, there is no debt, there is nothing to explicate, and where is your evidence? Yes I am questioning your thoughts and I am not bringing any evidence to this because the hours of gathering all my information would be wasted on the likes of you. Why was it blasphemy and exactly what was he doing? Do you get my point? “i believe that Islam was closest with their view of Jesus...that he was indeed a prophet...but i believe he was a prophet who let the word of God get to his head, and who knows what else...and then he created a story claiming he was the son of God” Again you thought I respect your thoughts but do you think your argument is strong enough by using the beliefs of a religion that was created 570-600 years after the birth of Christ?” i think my theory is pretty damn brilliant actually” Personally I would be shocked if any other educated person on the face of the earth would read what you have written and agree.

O Sigh Ruz
04-15-2007, 11:14 PM
its funny to me that atheists are so bitter that their main goal is to put down people that have faith. its pretty disgusting actually.
You just mad cause they stylin on you.

specialk103185
04-23-2007, 04:32 PM
why does it matter to an atheist if a Christian believes in God or not? Religion is for people that want to believe in something better, higher and beyond themselves. People that want to have a reason to be the best person they can be no matter what religion it is...it seems to me that most atheists are bitter, angry, and in general have a terribly grim outlook on life. I would rather believe in God, Jesus, and all the miracles that the Bible has said he's performed to make people's lives better over thousands of years then spend the rest of my life believing in nothing only to die and find that its too late for me to do anything about it...just an opinion. :shrug:

Justo Sound!
07-04-2008, 03:53 AM
what did i just get myself into. this is some insane sh*t

3Wyzmun
07-04-2008, 11:34 AM
why does it matter to an atheist if a Christian believes in God or not? Religion is for people that want to believe in something better, higher and beyond themselves. People that want to have a reason to be the best person they can be no matter what religion it is...it seems to me that most atheists are bitter, angry, and in general have a terribly grim outlook on life. I would rather believe in God, Jesus, and all the miracles that the Bible has said he's performed to make people's lives better over thousands of years then spend the rest of my life believing in nothing only to die and find that its too late for me to do anything about it...just an opinion. :shrug:

Athiests aren't bitter son, we jus don't believe in religion, that's our right.
We get it shoved down our throats by a world that's intent on influencing a jihad. Ain't no athiest suicide bombing underground tubes, buses & trade centers bro, it's muslims not accepting the beliefs of the rest of humanity. Athiests ain't knocking on a muthafu*kaz door on a sunday morning asking if i'm prepared for jahovas return, athiests ain't standing on street corners screaming bible passages down the street & athiests ain't telling people to believe wot they believe or ya going to hell. We ain't bitter, we ain't angry & we don't have a terribly grim outlook on life. We believe in wot's in front of us, wot we can see, wot we can hear & wot we can feel. We don't think ya wrong to believe in god, jesus, allah, mohammed etc.....we jus don't agree!!

As much as it may hurt u to admit, not one religion is a proven fact, that's why they call it a belief cuz u gotta have faith. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION!!!

If u got a problem wid anythin i've said PM me, Bless!!

AlSween
07-04-2008, 01:08 PM
its Funny To Me That Atheists Are So Bitter That Their Main Goal Is To Put Down People That Have Faith. Its Pretty Disgusting Actually.
Fact!

samsin420
07-04-2008, 02:54 PM
:sleepy:

specialk103185
07-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Athiests aren't bitter son, we jus don't believe in religion, that's our right.
We get it shoved down our throats by a world that's intent on influencing a jihad. Ain't no athiest suicide bombing underground tubes, buses & trade centers bro, it's muslims not accepting the beliefs of the rest of humanity. Athiests ain't knocking on a muthafu*kaz door on a sunday morning asking if i'm prepared for jahovas return, athiests ain't standing on street corners screaming bible passages down the street & athiests ain't telling people to believe wot they believe or ya going to hell. We ain't bitter, we ain't angry & we don't have a terribly grim outlook on life. We believe in wot's in front of us, wot we can see, wot we can hear & wot we can feel. We don't think ya wrong to believe in god, jesus, allah, mohammed etc.....we jus don't agree!!

As much as it may hurt u to admit, not one religion is a proven fact, that's why they call it a belief cuz u gotta have faith. THAT'S NOT AN OPINION!!!

If u got a problem wid anythin i've said PM me, Bless!!

For every Muslim that believes in the Jihad and suicide bombs something, For every Jahova's witness that knocks on doors, for every Christian standing on the street screaming out bible passages--there are just as many atheists that don't believe in anything that murder, abuse and rape folks. And then there are those atheists that simply prefer not to believe in anything and keep it to themselves. I suppose that I should have been more specific--i am refering to the atheists that start threads like "Why would anyone believe in God" and so on...Religion is one of those things you believe in or you don't--that's ur right. I just don't see why some atheists have taken it upon themselves to spread that there is no God. Religions instruct folks to spread the word to as many people as possible. What spiritual force compels atheists to hate on other religions and tell believers that there got doesn't exist.

coolwhip
07-04-2008, 11:19 PM
i didnt read much of this guys blog but i can tell he has not read much of the bible if u believe in GOD y can't you believe in jesus. first y do people choose to go after GOD anyway if u don't believe move on and if u want to know y people believe a relationship wit GOD jesus is personal u have to seek him out yourself if u feel like it's awaste of time that's on u know body is ever saying nothing about the devil u know y? cause he puts u up to doing blogs like this, when was the last time u read a blog that said i hate the devil and ect. u don't cause it's him the work in u he's ur higher power that u believe in. now back to jesus the father GOD yhwah lord gave jesus the power for his sacrifice in body they are sepreate in spirit they are one. GODbless u all. people worship the tv abd whats on it let's talk about that or how we get to GOD let's talk about that.

coolwhip
07-04-2008, 11:35 PM
i Understand What You Mean, But You Have To Realize That There Are Some Things That We As Human Beings Can't Even Fathom B/c We're Limited. You Said "it Has Control Over Everything....i Mean Christians Say Their Is One God, It Is Impossible Than For Jesus To Be The "son" Of God Because That Would Mean He Has God's Power...it's Either You Are God Or You Arent...there Is No In Between....that Makes Absolutely No Sense And If Anyone Tries To Say There Is" When You Were Talking About God, Right? But Key In On "has Control Over Everything." That's The Point, Man. God Can Do Whatever God Wants To Do And His Ways Are Not Our Ways. If God Wanted To Split Himself Into Another Being, Are You Saying That Would Be Impossible For God? If You Think That's Impossible For Him Then Wouldn't That Go Against Your Definition Of God?

Just B/c It's Hard For You To Imagine Something Doesn't Mean It's Impossible. I Always Give This As An Example: We All Know That Outer Space Is Infinite, Right? But If You Try To Picture Outer Space As Infinite In Your Mind, You Automatically Make It Finite B/c You Feel The Need To "see" It--simply Put, As Human Beings We Are Limited In What We Can Do. So To Say "god Is Either This Or That" Is Wrong B/c You're Defining God Only Through Your Limited Human Point Of View, But God Operates On A Whole Different Level Than We As Humans Ever Could Imagine.

Chew On That For A Moment, And Reply If You Feel Like Building More On Jesus (who Definitely Never Blasphemed And Truly Is God).

Godbless U, U Do Have The Mind Of A Sane Person And If What U Say Is Applied To Ur Life U R Blessed .

Minister Tye.

AlSween
07-05-2008, 11:51 AM
Worshiping God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit isn't polytheistic. That's the whole point of the Trinity. That the 3 make up 1.

Kartoon
07-05-2008, 10:34 PM
I understand what you mean, but you have to realize that there are some things that we as human beings can't even fathom b/c we're limited. You said "It has control over everything....i mean Christians say their is one God, it is impossible than for Jesus to be the "Son" of God because that would mean he has God's power...it's either you are God or you arent...there is no in between....that makes absolutely no sense and if anyone tries to say there is" when you were talking about God, right? But key in on "has control over everything." That's the point, man. God can do whatever God wants to do and His ways are not our ways. If God wanted to split himself into another being, are you saying that would be impossible for God? If you think that's impossible for him then wouldn't that go against your definition of God?

Just b/c it's hard for you to imagine something doesn't mean it's impossible. I always give this as an example: We all know that outer space is infinite, right? But if you try to picture outer space as infinite in your mind, you automatically make it finite b/c you feel the need to "see" it--simply put, as human beings we are limited in what we can do. So to say "God is either this or that" is wrong b/c you're defining God only through your limited human point of view, but God operates on a whole different level than we as humans ever could imagine.

Chew on that for a moment, and reply if you feel like building more on Jesus (who definitely never blasphemed and truly is God).

Um, yes it is. If he "split himself into another being" the other being would have it's own wills, the powers of God, etc. God wouldn't be able to control it and it would be able to do whatever it wants, including split its self again, possibly making infinite "Gods".


It's impossible to turn anything into an equally strong something, it doesn't matter if you're "God" or not, and it just wouldn't be possible or plausible in anyway that "God" would risk himself to make an identical being.


But god doesn't exist so who cares.

**CHIKO**
07-05-2008, 11:52 PM
Um, yes it is. If he "split himself into another being" the other being would have it's own wills, the powers of God, etc. God wouldn't be able to control it and it would be able to do whatever it wants, including split its self again, possibly making infinite "Gods".


It's impossible to turn anything into an equally strong something, it doesn't matter if you're "God" or not, and it just wouldn't be possible or plausible in anyway that "God" would risk himself to make an identical being.


But god doesn't exist so who cares.
Obviosly you didn't fully understand the man you're quoting. Nothing is impossible for God.
You can't even begin to imagine what he is capable of!!!!

chaos212
07-06-2008, 02:49 PM
You can't even begin to imagine what he is capable of!!!!

dude can make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich..:smh:

gotocollege
07-14-2008, 08:04 PM
how are you "against any religion" yet u believe in "a god who ahs control over everything".. get your facts straight ya cocksuckin rat fu*k


how can you be a christian and call people "cocksuckin rat fu*ks"? You can not believe in any organized religion and still believe in higher power, thats called being a deist. Some famous deists are Albert Einstein, Ben Franklin, Cicero, George Washington, John Locke, Mark Twain, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine and Napolean. On top of that you can be an agnostic, which is someone who believes that it is impossible to know if there is a higher power.

well dont come crying back to jesus when ur ass goes to hell

So if leaves a model life he goes to hell because he doesn't believe in jesus? that means that 67% of the world goes to hell. What makes a christian destined for eternal bliss over a jew, muslim, druid, hindu, budhist, taoist, or someone who worships zeus? because they were born into a christian country and thats how they were raised?

efromthev
07-15-2008, 11:55 PM
Yea, God could've helped all those people in Louisiana in 2006.

But he didnt.

DirtyHarry
08-01-2008, 08:51 AM
people who believe there is a god watching us, are fu*king idiots. no such thing you die thats it done. we are just animals with much smarter brains than other species. for real if there was a god would he want there to be a government? people telling other people what to do and when to do it? no i dont think so. people are just stupid.

ShaDoW1
08-01-2008, 02:43 PM
god doesn't exist, those who think he does, are just scared of dying.

no offense but you probably asked for Gods help at least one point in your life. Only in our time of need do we call on Gods help, for example if we are shot, we look to God for help and guidance, but when you hit the lotto you don't thank God.

God
08-02-2008, 11:40 AM
no offense but you probably asked for Gods help at least one point in your life. Only in our time of need do we call on Gods help, for example if we are shot, we look to God for help and guidance, but when you hit the lotto you don't thank God.

i believe god exists , but as far as the stupid carpenter that got hung up on a cross , and a book that was written by ppl aka the bible. fu*k those 2 things, they exist just like santa claus and the easter bunny. kids are suppose to be good for santa claus , and adults are suppose to be good for jesus ? does that make sense? 2 fictional characters 1 were suppose to be good for till were an adult the other were suppose to be good for till we die? I CANT SEE I CANT SEE OH NO I CANT SEE! ahh i open'd my eyes all good now, thats exactly what that dude that jesus supposedly made him see again did, he had his eyes closed and jesus whispered "open em up!" , i fu*kin hate religion. and if i won the lotto i'd say thank god . im thankin god right now for the bowl of light green funky smelling marijuana im smoking right now, THANK YOU GOD FOR PUTTING THIS ON EARTH FOR ME TO SMOKE.


AMEN!